Modern day Prophets and Apostles

Here’s just a quick study about the so called prophets and apostles walking around today, and also who were the apostles and prophets in the Bible.

  • Luke 16:16) “The law and the prophets were until John: since that time the kingdom of God is preached, and every man presseth into it.

John the Baptist was the last BORN prophet according to Jesus. Yes there were prophets in the early church, but they were obviously then born before John and outlived him as he was beheaded, like Agabus for example.

  • 1 Corinthians 13:8-10) “Charity never faileth: but whether there be **prophecies, they shall fail*; whether there be tongues, they shall cease; whether there be knowledge, it shall vanish away. For we know in part, and we prophesy in part. But when that which is perfect is come, then that which is in part shall be done away.”

That which is perfect is the full completed Word of God. Prophecies interprets as “fore-telling” like OT prophets, it’s not “forth-telling” like preaching.

1 Corinthians 14 talks about them in the Church – they were fill-in’s until the Word of God was completed. But once it was completed we now have a “more sure word of prophecy“, the Oracle is now the Word of God, not man – – That which is perfect has come, and that which was in part has been done away.

Many point to Joel and Acts regarding the prophecy of “In that day I will pour out my Spirit and the young men shall prophesy and old men shall dream dreams” – again it says shall prophesy, not “will be prophets

The point of a Prophet is to speak revelations from God as God gives them. But as the word of God has come (both contexts) there is no further need for new revelations. As 1 Corinthians 13 also states that “knowledge will vanish away” meaning being in context “words of knowledge” like how the Charismatics claim they receive downloads/words of knowledge from God.

The issue is that many who claim to be Prophets also have a the problem of not believing in the absolute authority of Scripture, because “God speaks to me directly” and they don’t need to rely on the Bible as the sole absolute authority in their lives. Many I know even say they don’t need to read the Bible or haven’t read it in a long time – but that raises a question though, who or what would cause someone to believe that? Certainly not God. These types are removing the authority of Scripture from being absolute, because man then is the oracle and not the Bible. Killing the absolute authority of Scripture is demonic.

The meaning of Prophesying (forth-telling) is to speak the word of God, like a Pastor, Evangelist, or Bible teacher – you don’t need to be a prophet to teach the word of God.

So no, prophets don’t exist anymore according to Christ, there’s no need for them, and anyone calling themselves a prophet is doing so mistakenly or delusionally.

The early church prophets were the one’s that outlived John, like Agabus for example who warned Paul from going to Jerusalem, and they were the “fill-in’s” until the finalization of the word of God was fully come. 2 Peter 1:16-21 – we have a more sure word of prophecy now and the gift of the prophet was done away with by the arrival of the completed Word of God. That when the completion of the Word of God was done, the human oracles ceased and the Word of God is now the authority, not man, and God no longer gives new revelations/words of knowledge/downloads from Heaven.

And on top of that, please show me just ONE so called prophet today who isn’t mixed up in the Pentecostal Charismatic movement, or the prosperity money gospel nonsense who doesn’t shout for a “seed of money” every second breath and declares/decrees over everything and jabbers like Fred Flintstone. They only title themselves as that only for the purpose to draw attention and make themselves look important.

The same as anyone calling themselves an Apostle – there are none of those anymore either, an Apostle is one who saw the risen Lord with their own eyes in person (dreams and visions don’t count), were taught by Christ personally face to face, and were appointed by Christ as an Apostle. So unless you’re about 2000 years old, or Christ came again and we didn’t know – nobody is an Apostle.

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